tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37070024.post3385866003888169338..comments2023-10-31T15:39:09.651+01:00Comments on box elder: A pantoum for HlizaLucyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09764296105901909328noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37070024.post-10751442608913574582012-06-26T07:27:24.131+02:002012-06-26T07:27:24.131+02:00gorgeous and incredibly visual. thank you.gorgeous and incredibly visual. thank you.the polish chickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09929281676865641560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37070024.post-74284644202591782212012-06-14T00:58:35.941+02:002012-06-14T00:58:35.941+02:00I have done pantoums, though I never kept any--I t...I have done pantoums, though I never kept any--I think this a useful way to go about trying new forms, plucking magpie bits from another person's life. You'll have to try some of those weird Welsh forms some time. (I haven't had the courage.)Marly Youmanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02377938366750387442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37070024.post-28694078763610820132012-06-07T09:33:27.377+02:002012-06-07T09:33:27.377+02:00let's = letslet's = letsRoderick Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16828395545197001637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37070024.post-39766676427793492612012-06-07T09:31:13.952+02:002012-06-07T09:31:13.952+02:00In Auden's The Dyer's Hand he defines a po...In Auden's The Dyer's Hand he defines a poet as one who, inter alia, can't stop testing him/her-self with exotic verse forms. Then rather let's down this assertion by offering the villanelle as an example: I mean, I've done one myself, albeit with Plutarch's help.<br /><br />Since it's clear you're a poet, and are incapable of resisting the my-next-trick-is-impossible challenge, why not try the triolet, summarised in R.F.Brewer's The Art of Versification and the Technicalities of Poetry as: "a poetic morsel with rigid rules and very little room to expand even a single thought."<br /><br />Of course, you're going to tell me you've already done dozens.Roderick Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16828395545197001637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37070024.post-24618773645079533642012-06-05T21:57:19.625+02:002012-06-05T21:57:19.625+02:00Christopher - sorry, left you off. Flying dreams,...Christopher - sorry, left you off. Flying dreams, mine have settled to this level. You'll always be wild at heart!Lucyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09764296105901909328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37070024.post-85901058126121652792012-06-05T21:55:01.698+02:002012-06-05T21:55:01.698+02:00Thanks again.
Foam, nice to see you here, I'v...Thanks again.<br /><br />Foam, nice to see you here, I've seen you there!<br /><br />ML - I shouldn't worry about not writing poetry, if I could make pictures like you can I certainly wouldn't.<br /><br />Plutarch - you might be the very man to seek out the Victor Hugo pantoum, it's in Les Orientales apparently. Hliza tells me though that modern Malay pantuns no longer have this repeating form. <br />The interleaving of the lines in this way makes for interesting juxtapositions, which is what poems are about, I suppose. I didn't have any particular plans to write a pantoum, or to draw the images from impressions and elements of someone else's life as she has shared them, but the two ideas came together and it seemed to work. I suppose the way that one reads another's blog, a series of accumulated vignettes which create a kind of consistently woven texture, suits this form. Traditionally, it was meant to be a string of pictures of human action and detail against a landscape background, which in a way is rather what we create in recording our everyday lives like this.Lucyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09764296105901909328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37070024.post-37380707954951724002012-06-04T18:53:12.517+02:002012-06-04T18:53:12.517+02:00I love your pantoum, but I love more the image of ...I love your pantoum, but I love more the image of you bobbing along at head height! You tame my heart.christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201537517464996231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37070024.post-52948854222706822782012-06-04T18:03:42.780+02:002012-06-04T18:03:42.780+02:00A stranger to pantoums (though I hope not for long...A stranger to pantoums (though I hope not for long) I am greatly moved by this one. "He folds the years up and nearly breaks your heart..." It just goes to show that writing to fulfill the requirements of a particular form seems to squeeze out poetry where none might have been. For this is poetry. "Where patterns, words and pictures hang in rainbows the girl lies quiet, dropping stones like prayer beads into sets... " But I mustn't jump the gun. May I ask? Did the thoughts and images in this poem precede your approach to the pantoum form or did the form the most part arise from trying to fulfill its demands? It doesn't matter. This is a poem!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06972049290586377462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37070024.post-13401619196913785532012-06-03T21:05:14.905+02:002012-06-03T21:05:14.905+02:00Beautiful, and amazing! Like Anne, I could not do ...Beautiful, and amazing! Like Anne, I could not do this, I don't think I've ever written poetry. I studied it in English Lit way back when but have forgotten much. I just admire others.marja-leenahttp://www.marja-leena-rathje.infonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37070024.post-38684627111201278202012-06-03T20:20:46.794+02:002012-06-03T20:20:46.794+02:00Wow, this is truly amazing. I see so much of hliz...Wow, this is truly amazing. I see so much of hliza in this. She's been a blogging buddy of mine for several years now.darkfoamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14394546886035933252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37070024.post-18958819545529240992012-06-03T18:55:06.835+02:002012-06-03T18:55:06.835+02:00Thanks Anne! No, I can't fly, I sometimes bob...Thanks Anne! No, I can't fly, I sometimes bob along at about head height...Lucyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09764296105901909328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37070024.post-77369245998648287582012-06-03T17:42:49.327+02:002012-06-03T17:42:49.327+02:00Lucy, that's amazing. I could no more do that ...Lucy, that's amazing. I could no more do that than fly. Can you fly too?Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04979547096244105508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37070024.post-6867578323580474912012-06-03T14:53:10.596+02:002012-06-03T14:53:10.596+02:00Thanks both.
Alison - I get a thing about writing...Thanks both.<br /><br />Alison - I get a thing about writing form poems sometimes, then I run out of steam on them. Villanelles and sestinas have previously defeated me, but I had a ghazal craze a few years ago. Kyrielles I'll look up! Tight forms can be a good prompt when inspiration dries up, which mine very much has for poems for a while now.<br /><br />Hliza - it was really a pleasure, I'm glad you like it. It was kind of inspiring to draw on images and stories from memory from someone else's life, and your blog and comments are always so full of vivid little details. I hope I did them justice. Thanks for the ideas!Lucyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09764296105901909328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37070024.post-42212137357884131192012-06-03T14:26:04.810+02:002012-06-03T14:26:04.810+02:00oh my god lucy, this is the most wonderful piece o...oh my god lucy, this is the most wonderful piece of pantoum ever! thank you for arranging those words so beautifully..i'm touched that i can recignize most of them are things you had read from my blog. i didn't know much about poems and their origins; i think you did a wonderful job looking for pantoum history! i did come across very old version of 'pantun' when i was small.. they do bear the repetitions like this which we can hardly find in modern malay form of 'pantuns'. thank you lucy for this special post dedicated to me! i'm blessed with our friendship and the magical blogworld.HLizahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04501423875033391870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37070024.post-55402507173798146242012-06-03T13:18:17.133+02:002012-06-03T13:18:17.133+02:00P.S. Try a sestina next! Then a kyrielle. And a gh...P.S. Try a sestina next! Then a kyrielle. And a ghazal!<br /><br />(It's dawn here where I'm typing and I have now set myself the task of writing a villanelle before I get up from this table.)<br /><br />- alison (again)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37070024.post-25248686454515543262012-06-03T13:17:00.623+02:002012-06-03T13:17:00.623+02:00Oh, this is wonderful. I love pantoums, and "...Oh, this is wonderful. I love pantoums, and "form" poetry in general, the jigsaw puzzle nature of them. This is a haunting and beautiful piece of writing. <br />- alisonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com